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Bill Hicks on Waco: Before and After

March 6, 2008 by cadeveo

The wise man changes his views when he sees the truth.

Rest in peace, Bill.

Before the tragedy:

And after(from Rant in E-Minor):

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5 Responses to “Bill Hicks on Waco: Before and After”

on March 6, 2008 at 9:44 pm1 Malcolm

The audience doesn’t realize what he wants to tell them…
on March 8, 2008 at 7:36 pm2 the Esoteric Sheik of Inner Confusion

I think that the audience fully realizes what he is trying to tell them, yet they can not comprehend the scope and full meaning of it - there is a huge difference between believing that the state does not care about you (which is how most reality tunnels will translate Bill Hicks) against believing that the state is a self-propagating tool of power, control and manipulation, which is capable of, no, which creates, tremendous damage, evil and dishonesty. It is also quite difficult to comprehend the scope of how much we are fucked with on a day-to-day basis - from conditioning through education, media, law, language and uncountable others.

The kind of realization that Bill Hicks underwent (you are on your own and there are some mean sharks around) is not as common as you would think or wish. Most people see the corners of this but never go farther, believing that apathy is a healthy response to an unhealthy world. Once you start seeing the whole picture, not just the corners, apathy stops being an option (you may still remain a passive observer but your opinions and day-to-day actions and reasons for those actions are forever changed). It is a form of awakening (in my opinion), a little kick up the ass.

Which brings me to the excellent blog thecleaver.blogspot.com , which Cadeveo advertised some time ago - the author of that blog draws an interesting notion there, talking about the way that ‘conspiracy’ research (or knowledge, or understanding of) links to the spiritual path and to looking for answers in oneself. I am not going to spell out the whole argument, as I wouldn’t do it service, but suffice to say, there does seem to be a connection between understanding how this world operates and understanding oneself. One form of broadening of focus and perception brings about the other.
on March 9, 2008 at 6:48 pm3 ragpicker

Waco was really a red pill/blue pill moment for the USA. A forking of paths. Unfortunately it was also a missed opportunity, because both paths have turned out to be dead ends: either the denial and rationalization of the liberal media on one hand, or the conspiracy myths of the militia/patriot movement on the other. Hicks was something of a prophetic outlier in this regard, but today this country is still mostly lost in the same labyrinth of false choices.
on March 12, 2008 at 3:50 am4 A. Magnus

I once read a T-shirt being sold on a website that read “Iraq is a Waco every day!” I got the message, but what I fear is wrong with most Americans is the immobilizing fear that strikes prey animals when confronted with a powerful predator when there are few if any avenues of escape. Americans refuse to acknowledge that the world-enslaving military beast they have spawned could just as easily turn on them like Frankenstein turned on his creator.

Case in point: a reasonably intelligent co-worker of mine who is a family man, modestly conservative and otherwise articulate will not accept without disbelief when I forward him news stories where law enforcement and FEMA deliberately seize private guns in the aftermath of natural disasters. He also believes that torturing terrorists is acceptable in some cases for the ‘common good,’ although I suspect if the ‘perp’ were a member of his own family he would heartily change his tune.
on March 12, 2008 at 2:12 pm5 cadeveo

Very much true. You can say the same truths a hundred times to lots of folks and it won’t change anything unless a situation confronts them that fills them with so much cognitive dissonance that they will either have to see what’s in front of them or go nuts to keep it together. I think a huge part of it is identifying with the so-called government, which is always false. Where this leads is the kind of underlying thought where if you admit that the “government” ain’t about love and light and being good and true, then the individual feels they will be forced to admit that about themselves. And that may very well be true–that the individual isn’t the good guy s/he thinks s/he is, which is a frightening enough thing to accept–but even if it’s not, the identification between individuals make between themselves and the powers that lord it over them is a false one which leads to dangerous consequences, the first one being acquiescence.